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Outboard Transom Repair
A. Let's take a look at a standard repair:
1) Remove transom top, and (as many as possible) fixtures attached
to the transom. Tape the holes shut. IMPORTANT: to prevent recurring rot, all wood in the surrounding area (even if it is not rotted) needs to be treated with CPES as well. The rot fungi are there. You can use a spray or a swab but you must get the CPES on the wood.
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The method above was used by one of our customers to repair their transom. We feel that it was a very well planned and executed repair, and as the process was well documented, we thought that you might like to see the results. The following link is to a copy of the web pages that he put online, and was kind enough to let us incorporate into our site. To view the repair job, click here. VARIATION: On some boats it is possible to get at the transom from the inside. There are advantages to this method; for one, it would not scar or deface the outside of the transom. Simply cut away the inner face of the transom, save the glass piece if possible, and tear away the bad wood. Treat any wood left inside with CPES. Cut new wood and treat with CPES and insert into transom, clamp/epoxy-glue it to the back of the transom, fill in all gaps with either the Fill-It epoxy filler or a putty-mix of the L&L Resin, and then re-glass the inside. It's real work. Another customer sent us a brief description and pictures of his transom repair as well. He accessed the bad wood from the inside of the boat. While not as detailed as the repair above, you may find the pictures informative. To take a look, click here. UPDATE: After 2 years, the original repair repair mentioned above is still going strong according to the customer. If you want to read his report and see the pictures, please go here. AN EASIER ALTERNATIVE...
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Inboard/Outboard Transom Repair Getting new wood into areas that is above the mounting holes will involve bedding it in our Fill-It epoxy filler (after CPES treatment, of course) and propping it in place for 24 hours until the filler cures. If you wish you can fill overhead space entirely with the Fill-It epoxy filler. This may take two applications to get a smooth final fill. For awkward areas, the CPES can be sprayed on or injected into the wood, allowing the wood to absorb as much of the liquid as it can. It is essential that the face of any wood not replaced be thoroughly soaked with CPES. When finished re-drill bracket holes and bed everything down. Note: We have had customers who have cut away exterior transom glass to get at the rotted wood inside, and they have done this without removing the outdrives and mounting brackets. After the repair, the glass panels are bonded back in place with Layup & Laminating Epoxy Resin and the cut grooves filled with Fill-It epoxy filler, the surface sanded and then painted with a polyurethane paint. It can be done. |
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| Floor Replacement Often, however, it is easier and more thorough just to pull up the old floor and replace it with new wood. This also will give you a look at the flooring sub-structure, the fore/aft stringers and the supporting cross beams. Sometimes they require repair as well, and we do cover this process under Stringer Repair in a later section. When making the floor replacement, there are some special considerations regarding type of wood and its treatment before the wood is installed. The object is to give you a new floor that will withstand future water saturation without rotting out again. Treatment of the New Wood
There are a variety of ways to cover the new flooring for traction and protection from moisture. The ultimate would be new glass laid down in epoxy resin. We strongly suggest that you do not use a polyester resin. It will bond to plywood that has been treated with one coating of CPES, but polyester resin does not bond really well with anything. A few extra dollars and you can use epoxy, which will make the floor almost bullet-proof. We suggest you consider our Layup & Laminating Resin. It's an easy 1:1 mix, bonds extremely well, and always retains a slight degree of flexibility. It can be laid down with 8 or 10 oz. cloth, or heavier if you wish. Do NOT use glass matting.You can finish coat with a polyurethane paint, carpet or our Uniflex 255 Aliphatic. Outdoor carpeting can also be put over the new flooring, and any exterior grade carpet adhesive will bond with the CPES treated wood. If you use outdoor carpeting, we strongly recommend that at least two coatings of CPES be applied to the surface first, and allowed to cure. Three coatings would be even better. This will give the wood protection from the moisture that will inevitably collect under the carpet surface. Finally, paints or waterproof elastomeric coatings can be applied. We suggest that you consider our RHINO-TOP, which is an acrylic/epoxy water-based coating that has spherical sand suspended in an emulsion for traction. We have tested this material on plywood and we are impressed with its durability. It's available in a number of colors, and can be retouched as necessary. Specifications on RHINO-TOP can be seen under our Polyurethane Coatings section. If you want to totally waterproof the wood, we suggest you use our UNIFLEX 255 Aliphatic polyurethane coating, the RHINO-TOP as a final coating over our ELASTUFF 120, or the UNIFLEX 255 Aliphatic as a topcoating over the ELASTUFF 120. The techniques and relative costs of these polyurethane coatings are outlined in our Polyurethane Coatings section. |
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Engine Mount Repair When the Wood Is Accessible And you might as well repair all the mounting holes as long as you are involved in the process. If one is bad then the others are likely not in great shape either. For the above process to work the wood must be reasonably dry and oil-free. (Wood with oil on it should be drilled or chiseled away.) Blow the holes with a hair dryer for a few hours before proceeding with the CPES. Allow at least 3 days to pass after the CPES treatment for the carrier solvents to evaporate away before proceeding with the wood and L&L Resin rebuild. After that 48 hours between steps is sufficient. One way or another the repair process outlined above will work on just about any wood/steel engine mount configuration where the wood is accessible. |
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Rot Repair to Inaccessible Wood in Engine Mounts
Basically this forms a very strong plug inside the stringer to hold the engine securely in place. It doesn't solve the whole stringer problem, but much of the stringer strength is in the fiberglass “hat-section” formed by the stringer itself. The fiberglass on some stringers approaches 1/4” in thickness, in which case the wood interior is almost redundant. It's important in these kinds of repairs to use our Layup & Laminating Resin, because it has a slower setting (time to settle) and because it will never shatter or crack under loads. In hot weather these repairs should be made at the coolest part of the day, since heat accelerates the cure time of all polymer resins. And don't even think about using the standard polyester resins. They set too quickly, are brittle, and not sufficiently strong for an engine mount lag/bolt. Don't skimp on resin use! We realize that epoxy resins are expensive, but it takes an adequate amount to create the solid base for your engine lags/bolts to attach to. Just remember that the resin is a lot less expensive than paying someone to remove the engine, cut the tops off the stringers, replace the wood, re-glass the stringers, and then re-install and line-up the engine. |
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Here is a step-by-step outline of the repair procedure: 2) Remove any aluminum plates or other items have been added to improve the structure. 3) Take a stiff hooked wire (such as a bent coat hanger) and probe around inside the mount hole. Any soft wood should be broken up and shop-vac'ed out of the hole. It will also give you a rough idea of the amount of Layup& Laminating™ Epoxy Resin you will need. You can estimate the cubed inches of interior vacancy and then convert cubic inches into fluid ounces, and then fluid ounces into pints/quarts/gallons. 4) Give the areas a few days (or longer) to dry out, that is, vent away moisture that may be trapped inside the stringer fiberglass laminate. Compressed air can also be used to dry wood quickly. 5) Using our injection kit or ketchup dispenser or something similar, squirt the inside of the stringer with our CPES (Clear Penetrating Epoxy Sealer). This will harden any remaining soft wood, and it will help eliminate all fungi/bacteria in the wood. You'll need about 1/2 to 1 pint of the mixed CPES per mounting hole, depending on the size of the stringer. 6) Wait for a few days while the CPES gasses-off the carrier solvents. 7) Now, if there is any wood remaining inside the stringer fiberglass laminate, pour in slowly our mixed Layup & Laminating Resin. This will gradually be absorbed by the wood and will make it very hard. You will need about 1/2 to 1 pint of the L&L Resin per mounting hole. If there isn't any wood inside the fiberglass, then you'll proceed directly to Step # 8. 8) Mix our Layup & Laminating Resin, add some of our fine sawdust until you get a fairly thick but still pourable mix. Pour or pump (see our Reusable Caulking Tubes) it into the mounting hole. If you have first put in the pure L&L Resin (Step # 7) and there is still space inside the hole, then add the L&L Resin/sawdust to those mounting holes as well. Pour/pump in as much of the resin/sawdust as the mounting hole will take in about 1/2 hour period of time. You'll probably use anywhere from a pint to a quart of the resin/sawdust per mounting hole, depending on the amount of empty space. 9) After 24 hours the resin/sawdust will have cured. You should be able to see it in the hole. Come back now and mix a thicker mix of the L&L Resin/sawdust and using our re-useable caulking tubes pump or pack it down into the hole until it backs up against the poured mix. Level off at the surface. 10) Drill new lag bolt holes in the resin/sawdust mix, and screw in the lags. |
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Wood-Cored Decks
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Decks are most often cored with plywood or end grain balsa. Occasionally foam or a plastic core system is used, but usually not. The diagram shows some typical cores, and a couple of photographs of a power boat deck showing the wood core. Once the deck or cabin core decomposition becomes severe you'll know it: Things get a bit springy up there. Mild decomposition may not be so evident, but can be detected by pulling bolts/screws and inspecting the holes, or by tapping the deck and listening for tonal differences. If there a lot of air under there, it sounds hollow. You can also test drill through the deck to take a look. More often than not you'll be right so the test hole is no issue. If the wood turns out to be good, squirt it with some CPES and then after the CPES cures fill in with an epoxy filler. Our Fill-It dries just off white and smoothes nicely. |
| Repairing Rotted Cores Method 1: Removing Deck Skin and Replacing Core How you repair rotted cores will depend on a lot of variables: How large the rotted area is, what it is, where it is, where the boat is and what kind of weather protection it has - and how patient you are. There are two basic problems: 1) Accessibility to the deteriorated area and 2) drying things out. Epoxy will not effectively penetrate wet wood; the wood has to be reasonably dry. So, obviously, the best solution is always to pull the top off the deck and scoop out the bad wood and replace it. Easier said than done, right? On sailboats, especially, this can be a nightmare, with all the hardware scattered around. Still, it might in the end be worth it because things happen a lot faster this way. You treat the edges of the bad wood area with CPES, and the new wood if it's ply, and then re-install. With balsa you must put it in place first because the backing compound is dissolved by the CPES, or you can order the balsa core without the film backing. For bonding use our Layup & Laminating Resin, but wait until the CPES on the treated wood has cured. In a perfect world you would replace with a plastic honeycomb instead of wood, but we've been told many times that plastic core material is hard to get in limited quantities. Below is a rough schematic for removing outer glass deck skin. There are various ways you can accomplish this task; this is just one of them. Removing Outer Skin
Removing Inner Skin On some boats, especially the smaller ones, it is sometimes possible to get at the deck core from inside. Removing the inner skin is the preferable way of gaining access to the damaged core because it leaves the exterior surfaces unmarked. The schematic (right) shows steps for inner skin removal. Once again, old remaining wood and new wood core material should be CPES treated and bonded with our Layup & Laminating Resin. TIPS FOR REMOVING THE INNER SKIN
Replacing the Core
Replacing the Deck How you replace the outer deck skin will depend on how large the area is and how it relates to the hull structure. Ordinarily the skin section can be placed back over the new core with L&L Resin bonding and the cut edges later filled with our Epoxy Filler and then sanded smooth. However, if you are concerned that this will not present the same strong structure as it was originally, we recommend you use the steps shown below to restore the deck. Use only epoxy resins for re-bonding, and we can suggest our Layup Laminating Resin as being an excellent choice. It has a long pot life, is a simple 1:1 mix, and remains slightly flexible after curing. After major repairs you may elect to cover the deck with one of the non-skid flexible coverings. It will hide all your cut and scratch marks.
(1) Fit outer skin over new core. (2) Bond with thickened L L Epoxy Resin. The core should be solidly bedded in the thickened epoxy, and epoxy should squeeze out the cut line all around the new section. Cure thoroughly (at least 24 hours), compressed with weights. (Place polyethylene plastic sheeting between weights and skin). 3. After resin mix has cured, sand/bevel seam areas into a shallow v-shaped depression with the original cut line in the deepest part of the 'v'. 4. Cut fiberglass cloth into narrow strips (or use fiberglass tape) and laminate them into the depression with straight L L Epoxy Resin. Each strip should be about 1 inch wider than the previous one. Finally, sand the cured surface, then paint with a water-barrier coating or cover with non-skid flexible covering. |
| Repairing Rotted Cores
Method 2: Treating Core Without Removing Fiberglass Skin Many of you will elect to repair the core without removing the deck skin. On smaller areas especially this will be the case. Sometimes, though, the glass skin is just too difficult to remove, or, it's an old boat and you just don't want to expend the time and effort. It's possible in these cases to perforate the outer skin with drilled holes, dry the area underneath, and then inject with Clear Penetrating Epoxy Sealer (CPES), Layup and Laminating Epoxy Resin, and then close the holes with Fill-It Epoxy Filler. The key here is drying the core material. Epoxy will not displace water in and around wood cells. Although CPES will partially displace light moisture, in almost all instances it will be necessary to use some sort of drying method. It can take awhile. Ideally, this is a project that can be started in the winter when boating is less frequent. The deck can be opened, covered, and then left to dry out over a few month's time. If slow drying is not possible, there are ways to speed up the process. Here's the procedure:
• Define the deteriorated area. We suggest first tapping it out and then
going back with a drill to verify. You want to find the edges up to the good wood
and mark the area.
• Once defined, drill the area with multiple holes* no further than 5" apart. The more you drill the quicker the drying. Be careful not to drill through inner skin. NOTE: We use drilled holes, but one of our web readers (thank you, Jeffrey Manosh) suggests slits cut with a circular saw across the deck, that is, side to side--beam to beam, which would allow more air through, easier application of the CPES and L & L Resin and better ventilation for cure time. The slits need not be all the way across and can be staggered. There would be enough deck left to supply good lateral support (most fore and aft support on boats is provided by the hull), and of course, the slits would be filled in with Fill-It Epoxy Filler when treatment of the core is completed. Another person, using Jeffrey's slit method, discovered that blue painter's tape works well as a temporary dam to keep the CPES in the slits while it absorbed into the core. He reports that the CPES did NOT dissolve the adhesive of the tape, as he thought it might. Thanks for another good suggestion.
• Drying methods: a shop vac can help remove bulk water, flushing the cavity with acetone* will help carry away moisture, blown heat from a hair dryer or heat gun helps, and finally, compressed air pumped in through holes is especially effective. Nothing dries wood as quickly as moving air. *NOTE: ACETONE IS FLAMMABLE. Use caution if using both acetone and heat.
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Delamination We recommend the use of our Layup & Laminating Resin because it is a simple 1:1 mix, very slow setting which allows the epoxy to settle into position and retain a slight flexibility after curing. For filling holes, our Fill-It Epoxy Filler goes in neatly on top of the epoxy, smoothes cleanly, dries in 24 hours, and can then be easily gel-coated or painted. If there is wood involved and you suspect deterioration or rot, you can apply CPES first to the holes, but this will mean waiting for at least a week for the carrier solvents to evaporate away. Then the Layup & Laminating Resin can be applied. Delamination: Hull Blisters Vast arrays of blisters is a boatyard job. Few owners will have the time to make the repair themselves. Everything has to be ground down, dried out, and built back up with epoxy. Big job... takes time... costs money. A few blisters are repairable by the owner, but it will take a little time. Pop them open, clean away the gunk, clean the opening area so it's free and clear, and dry out the laminate. If you've got a long time (say 6 months or more) they will eventually air-dry, or you can vacuum dry them, or you can apply blowing warm air, as from a hair dryer. It will still take time - you gotta be sure things are dry. The ordinary moisture meter won't be much help. There are specialized ones that will work, but they are expensive. Dry until you are sure it's dry inside. Clean out with our Epoxy Solvent or xylene. Then apply CPES to the area, allowing it to wick in as much as it will. Allow 2-3 days to go by, and then apply another coat of CPES. Allow 2 days to pass. Then another coat of CPES, one day dry time, and then another CPES application. You can do this as long as you want, allowing a day dry time between applications, because what you are doing is building thin layers of epoxy in, on and around the glass matrix. No other epoxy product you can buy will penetrate these very small spaces as well as CPES. A single 2-pint unit of CPES will carry you through a whole bunch of blisters. From this point on you can apply a thick resin coat or go directly to a filler, such as our Fill-It Epoxy Filler. Push it in, smooth it off, and paint with an epoxy or polyurethane barrier-coat paint. The repair will be virtually waterproof. |
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Other Problem Areas Anywhere there's wood on a boat there's a potential for rot or deterioration. We show below hull-to-deck joints, and the various applications of wood. If it looks bad, then clean the surface, remove the fastening, apply CPES.
Mast steps are usually wood based, and they rot or deteriorate. It's often easier to rebuild the existing deteriorated step than it is to pull it and replace. A combination of CPES and the L&L Resin can result in a strong step that is largely free of existing rot and protected to a substantial degree from future rot. The wood trim on glass boats is now usually teak, which is good because it won't rot. We should tell you that teak treated first with a coat of CPES will hold varnish for a lot longer than teak which is untreated. This particularly true if the varnish is a polyurethane, which seems to stick to CPES-treated wood particularly well. Finally, we'd like to add that we have specialty products such as the Tropical Hardwood Epoxy Adhesive and the All Wood Glue that will hold just about anything together with proper surface preparations. If you have questions about what will work and what won't work then contact us via e-mail. We almost always respond with 24 hours. |
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